After The Nose We Were Served Soap Opera

Without prejudice, I gathered the following announcement in the Chinese metaphysical forum in English language that has the following notes: -

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"... Authenticity

FL legitimate claim on being the only remaining disciple in the fourth generation of the Tan Yang Wu's San Yuan Feng Shui Thus, it's false. No proof except some blank claims with evidence that's fakeable. Ask for proof and you will understand.

Marketing strategies. 

The marketeer blog belongs to him in disguised behind a so called marketeer. Part of his scheme of self promote. Read it clearly and you will know his knowledge level. Pity those beginners being fed with wrong and corrupted information in between. It is meant to ridicule the market and to criticize other masters. And some of his students say that he doesn't criticize PLEASE GO AND READ THE BLOG!!! 

His Courses

Advice from all those who regretted, "Please don't waste time & money"!! You can learn the same thing from any masters at a much, much, much lower cost. If you want proof just go to some of his student that teaches to check. Even though in Chinese, I'm sure they'll be willing to translate to English. From feedback from many students, what he teaches is the same as most masters in the market. 

Reputation 

Ever think that it's all amplified. All the testimonials are paid with favors and money. And referral commissions are being paid too. Check with most former students you will know!! With exceptions to those few who earns or affiliated. On the internet he may be a celebrity but in actual his name stinks. Come on think about it. Any genuine fengshui master will self promote, criticize others or bluff the market??? 

His knowledge 

From what I gather - his fengshui cases are full of problems. Do some research and you will know how many people are in deep shit. Of course there are beneficiary, well! even in the casino you can get tiny chances !! 

A favour to the innocent people...  las_serie"

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Netizen of Chinese Metaphysics, please look out for such stalkers in disguise of FengShui Masters.

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That was just the appetizer. 

Why solid proof of sources can't be produced? Have you tried asking for it? When you probe you will find that all historical facts are untraceable and contradicting. Free to try as this few facts you can try to verify thou. TYW is teaching liufa and apologise for flying star mistake. But they continue to teach flying star. In their school all master practices different techniques if you traced. Or you can read their books to find out. Last time liufa and other fancy techniques was in silent mode and suddenly????

My group paid around 4000 in the early years and it is darn expensive for that kind of basic course. For those disbeliever, please carry on as you are already enticed by the advertisement. Or you can read the courses content to judge. 

It was found out that all their teaching is compiled from other masters courses as in the early stages he will gladly exchange your notes to gain information. Charging high for courses will create an image of quality. Ideally - Complete fengshui course for 1000, fees for compilation Anything more it's better to spend it on yoga His yeejing knowledge is kindergarten. 

The grave part is another total failure.I will condoned that good masters will never be sprayed red painted with the word shenkoon -- god conner (spiritual trickster)!! Happened years back!!Don't just believe my facts, do check with other masters or ex-students. But if you favor sweet talk then check with his instructors or well paid supporters. Oh!! Is it suppose to be a secret?"

First it was a turn, now there is a twist to the accusation. 

Extracted from ericklteoh.blogspot.com: -

"...How authentic is FL claim on being the only remaining 4th generation disciple of the Tang Yang Wu’s San Yuan Xuan Kong Feng Shui?As far as I know, a couple of the old and original texts are in the hands of FL which were passed down to him by his direct late Master, the Reverend Sui Beng. A few have seen the texts before. So I guess that makes him the real and genuine Tang Yang Wu’s disciple in the 4th generation. I don’t know how authentic that makes the claim, but it’s not just a claim, it’s simply the truth of the matter.

Why the 4th generation? Who were the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations?We start the lineage from Grandmaster Tang Yang Wu himself as the 1st generation, followed by his two direct students; Master Yen Pen as the 2nd generation and Master Sui Beng as the 3rd generation. So FL is the only remaining 4th generation in the lineage tree.Where does the late Master Hung Chuan fit into the lineage picture?Master Hung Chuan learned Feng Shui directly from Master Yen Pen, whereas, FL learned directly from Master Sui Beng. We could say that Master Hung Chuan and FL are ‘brothers’ from the same school with the same Grandmaster, but they’ve never met.So who will be the 5th generation holder after FL?

Perhaps a better question would be “what” will be the 5th generation; “who” will be just another name in the lineage tree. “What” is a certain ‘quality’ to look out for in this individual. Then again, I really don’t know.

Who manages your Blog?I manage ‘My Inner Voice’ Blog by myself, and I do get some contributions from various resources and helpful friends. It seems like I may not run out of ideas. Some things are just too personal to let the public know, but usually time will release those personal matters when they become less of a personal matter.

Who manages the CAFS website then?FL manages the website on his own. I do contribute a little sometimes and check the website for any mistakes. We work as a team – he with the CAFS website and me with ‘My Inner Voice’ Blog.Is any of the information on your Blog corrupted and false?I’ve mentioned before to my audience not to believe everything that I write. Be your own judge. Have your own experience. I’ve said this many times and am saying it again, “I’m just a Feng Shui Marketer and not a practitioner or master.” What I write and share is what I know and experience. My Blog is still a marketing Blog at the end of the day. If you think you could pick up and learn something from it, then that’s great! If you want to have some fun, then click on it!

Do you criticize other people on your Blog?I do criticize others not only on my Blog but in real life too. I usually do it indirectly on my Blog though. If anyone feels the ‘pinch’, then perhaps I’m talking about that ‘anyone’. If not, then get not too overly sensitive. It depends on how one takes the criticism - constructively or destructively. The choice is still yours.As the only Feng Shui Marketer in the world, do you exaggerate your marketing information?To be really honest, I wish I could exaggerate more, but my ‘partner’ would not allow it. 

Chinese Metaphysics is still a rather ‘serious’ business; not like personal development where I could pump it and blow it up all I want. But no one says I couldn’t tease. What kind of marketing doesn’t exaggerate anyway?Are CAFS Courses similar compared to other schools in the market?On the surface, most of the courses in the market look very similar. On a deeper level, most of CAFS Courses are somewhat different from other schools, in terms of the explanations and applications, and the casual learning environment. CAFS does have a few courses different compared to other schools. We’re not referring to online courses here. If it takes so much effort and patience to learn Chinese Metaphysics in a ‘live’ class, think of what it would take to learn Chinese Metaphysics online.It is possible to gather basic information from online courses, but in the end, the students will still need to attend a ‘live’ class. At CAFS, we usually encounter students who have learned from other schools. That’s what makes CAFS a bit different. Most of the time, in one class, we could find several masters and practitioners as classmates.

Has CAFS come across any regretful students so far?No one can please everyone. We have many students who come back for more courses. I guess they must have learned something and are happy with it to go for more. There are a few who have taken a single subject and we have not seen them again. Perhaps those are a few ‘regretful’ ones. I don’t know, as I haven’t received any serious complaints to express any regrets so far in my mailbox. I guess most people are just being passive or just being compromising. May be both!

Does CAFS get many ‘new beginner’ students to its courses?We do get ‘new beginner’ students from time to time. It’s quite rare, but we do. Most of the students that come to CAFS heard from their friends about us. And most of CAFS students come from other schools. No matter what, at CAFS, we welcome anyone who wishes to learn with a genuine and open heart.

Does CAFS reward its students in monetary terms for their testimonials?Huh! If that’s true, then some students at CAFS would be very rich. Where in the world did one get that silly idea? The students that share their thoughts in testimonials do that by their own will. I usually send a gratitude note and also a request for some comments and feedbacks; some will write their thoughts down and some just won’t. If there was monetary reward on the doorstep, then my guess is everyone will write a testimonial. Who doesn’t want to be rewarded?Would you not tell your friends about a good restaurant if you’ve eaten in one? Would you not tell your friends about a great movie if you’ve seen one? It’s the same principle here. We share with the world what makes us proud and happy. Some will appreciate your sharing and some will not. Heck! Just do it anyway!

Is it true that many of the old and senior students of CAFS are masters and teachers themselves, teaching the same courses at much lower fees?That’s absolutely true. Most of the senior students of CAFS are doing their own teaching and consulting business and it’s not surprising that their syllabus is somewhat similar to those that they’ve learned. Many of these students teach in Mandarin version.Why do most people learn Chinese Metaphysics? The answer: some for knowledge, some for hobby, and most having the desire to create a career out of it. Is it any surprise that CAFS has many old students who are doing their own teaching and consulting business now? Somehow, at the end of the day, many of the students – old and new – still prefer to learn from the original source at CAFS. 

Why is that? It’s because FL updates and upgrades his knowledge from time to time.Does FL have a celebrity status like LTand JY? Of late, the answer seems like a ‘yes’. There’s this acronym of FL in the market lately. FL still prefers to lead a simple and humble life. 

Could he escape from the celebrity status? Time shall reveal.Are most of CAFS Feng Shui audit clients in deep trouble due to erroneous Feng Shui methods or techniques?If Feng Shui alone could change a person’s life and destiny, then I guess Feng Shui masters would be the richest people in the world. But we all know that that’s not the case. FL does what he knows and what is best given the moment and situation. The final decision is still up to ‘Heaven’. No doubt, some people are doing better than others. But it is not permanent as time will change things for better or for worse. It seems like our life is somehow governed by time.We realize that it takes more than one factor to ‘alter’ a person’s destiny and life. 

So far, in FL work and record, he hasn’t murdered anyone, any family or any generation. We’ve heard of cases where some people’s lives have been prolonged due to a certain Feng Shui technique and some companies at the brink of bankruptcy were revived. If the Feng Shui methods FL has been using were erroneous, would he still be doing what he’s doing today? Will mistakes last this long? Your bet is as good as mine.

Is FL a fake, disguising as a Feng Shui Master for 30 years?Could someone fake as a Feng Shui master for 30 years? I don’t know where this came from, but, if that’s true, then FL must be really really good faking it. There’s a saying that goes, “You could lie and cheat for 8 or 10 years, but sooner or later, people will find the truth out.” For 30 years in the Chinese Metaphysics world? You judge for yourself.Does FL have any proof that he’s a real, authentic and experienced Feng Shui Master?This identical statement and question is getting very tiring. Does a medical doctor who has been practicing for 30 years need to proof to you that he’s a real, authentic and experienced doctor? If he’s not real, will he last this long? Do not the old Chinese texts, real case studies and methods that have been effective prove something? Or perhaps the public of people like something more tangible like some crystals and quotes from some Chinese classics as proof that the Feng Shui is real. 

How absurd!Does FL self-promote?Well, if he does, then I wouldn’t have a job, would I? As far I know, everyone and I mean everyone, promotes themselves in some ways. We are anyhow just humans, and when we have something good, beneficial and useful, we’d like to promote it. Some people do their promotion by criticizing, belittling and ridicule others. It shows how well they’re doing. If their product is really that good, then they need only promote the product as it is, without any feeling of insecurity and fear.The truth is FL is semi-retired and I’m promoting him and his ‘products’ as far as we could go together. A little seed of the thought of retirement has sprouted and I’m trying to get as much out of him as possible before the actual retirement occurs. At the moment, we’re doing just fine.

So tell us how does FL get clients for Feng Shui audits?By referrals. He doesn’t do audits for ‘new’ people without any referral. We’ve had requests from people we don’t know and we usually don’t accept their requests as we don’t know them. This may sound a little strange to some people. You may be thinking, but business is still business, why not? Well, that’s just the way it is over here. By referrals only.

What are some of FL business principles that you know of?Simple and straight forward. When it comes to business like teaching and auditing, he takes it very seriously. A “yes” answer means a “yes” and a “no” answer means a “no”; and there’s no two ways about it. I don’t usually agree with him on those principles but then it’s good to have principles at least. You seem very close to FL. 

What are some of the things that the public doesn’t know about him?If the public doesn’t know, do you seriously expect me to tell you? Come on already! But this much I can tell you, he loves antiques.Will you market and work with other Feng Shui masters if given a chance? That really depends. I must firstly feel comfortable with the person I’m working with. I do have some weird traits and honestly, I’m not an easy person to work with sometimes. And of course, most people know I make my living earning commissions and that must be good too but it’s secondary. Feeling happy and comfortable must come first. Besides, if the ‘product’ is really good, it’s easier to market. Some products do speak for themselves!"

We have not reach the climax yet. Stay tune.