A gentleman poured over his query as the followings: -
“…While trying to compare these two methods one may face the contradictions. In Ba Lu Huang Quan methodology it is said that it is disastrous to have for instance outgoing water at DING or GENG while facing KUN, in the same time the Fu Xing Shui Fa appoints Po Jun Star at DING while facing KUN and it is said that outgoing water in this case is auspicious. How would you explain this…”
I presumed this is a problem when the formula is taught in piecemeal. Upon looking into the query itself, 2 methods stem out. Firstly we had the so-called eight roads of destruction (8RD) (Ba Lu Huang Quan), an offset of the principle SanHe Four Major Water Mouths. Lastly, the Assistant Star Water Method (ASWM) (Fu Xing Shui Fa), that stem out from the Assigning the Dragon (Water) based on Gua Transformation coupled with the 3 Auspicious, 6 Elegances (3A6E) are the basis of as above, so below principle, of assigning the 24 heavenly star unto the 24 mountains. These are 2 entirely different method from 2 entirely different school of taught within the SanHe fraternity.
The Old School, Grand Master Yang Jun Song, also called YangGong Gu Fa, propagated the Four Major Water Mouth (4MW) techniques as a complete system based on the solar inclination affecting the movements of earth and water ways. This is the basis that the Earth Ring and the Heaven Ring were included in deploying such methodology. Later variation and simplification on this method into 8RD, proven to be a fallacy.
For instance, facing Kun with outgoing water mouth at Ding and Geng. A wood frame structure with Birth at Qian, Prosperous at Jia and Grave at Ding. Taking reverse, we had facing Kun as facing Death. A violation of 4MW. However, if outgoing water mouth at Kun (Repose), with facing at Ding (Death) or Geng (weakening), one will notice that Facing Geng with water exiting at Kun does not violate the 4MW. Such reverse engineering proves that the 8RD deemed to have been a fallacy.
The New School, Ge Fa, Grand Master Lai Bu Yi, also called YangGong Xin Fa, propagated that the asterism has a great influence to the land formation and watercourses. This became the basis of as above the sky, so below the landforms are the manifestation of the stars. An additional ring called the Human Ring was in paced to measure the embrace. Saying thus, the assignment to stellar constellations were grouped into star streams and assigned to the 24 mountains based on these streams of star. Notably the terms 3 auspicious were born, coupled with the related Najia, thus derived the 6 elegances. With this concept, encapsulated unto the Gua transformation, there derived what is known as the (minor) wandering 8 Tri-grams, or Di Mu Fan Gua Jiu Xing Fa, used to measure stars within the embrace or Ge Long Fa. A complementary system employing the same concepts were deployed for water method that start from the assistant star and was called Assistant Star Water Method.
No doubt, some claimed that the new school has its fallacy, for example, we know that the universe is ever expending and the positions of these stars are not static. Therefore, the theoretical framework based on as above, so below does not hold the test of time and probably it is a forced method deploy by Bazi expert to measure the earth.
Coming back to the query and let say, sitting Gen and facing Kun with water outgoing in Ding and Geng. In Najia, Dui received Ding and Zhen received Geng, Dui is Por Jun and Geng is Lien Zheng. Water outgoing at these positions are considered auspicious.
On this basis, we note that there is a contradiction between the findings using 4MW and ASWM, both SanHe methodologies, for reasons that the basic principles are indeed different. Choosing between the 2 methods, I may only recommend the use of 4MW to establish a spot in relative to ASWM to gauge the general auspiciousness of the entire site in question.
Ar. David Yek Tak Wai
“…While trying to compare these two methods one may face the contradictions. In Ba Lu Huang Quan methodology it is said that it is disastrous to have for instance outgoing water at DING or GENG while facing KUN, in the same time the Fu Xing Shui Fa appoints Po Jun Star at DING while facing KUN and it is said that outgoing water in this case is auspicious. How would you explain this…”
I presumed this is a problem when the formula is taught in piecemeal. Upon looking into the query itself, 2 methods stem out. Firstly we had the so-called eight roads of destruction (8RD) (Ba Lu Huang Quan), an offset of the principle SanHe Four Major Water Mouths. Lastly, the Assistant Star Water Method (ASWM) (Fu Xing Shui Fa), that stem out from the Assigning the Dragon (Water) based on Gua Transformation coupled with the 3 Auspicious, 6 Elegances (3A6E) are the basis of as above, so below principle, of assigning the 24 heavenly star unto the 24 mountains. These are 2 entirely different method from 2 entirely different school of taught within the SanHe fraternity.
The Old School, Grand Master Yang Jun Song, also called YangGong Gu Fa, propagated the Four Major Water Mouth (4MW) techniques as a complete system based on the solar inclination affecting the movements of earth and water ways. This is the basis that the Earth Ring and the Heaven Ring were included in deploying such methodology. Later variation and simplification on this method into 8RD, proven to be a fallacy.
For instance, facing Kun with outgoing water mouth at Ding and Geng. A wood frame structure with Birth at Qian, Prosperous at Jia and Grave at Ding. Taking reverse, we had facing Kun as facing Death. A violation of 4MW. However, if outgoing water mouth at Kun (Repose), with facing at Ding (Death) or Geng (weakening), one will notice that Facing Geng with water exiting at Kun does not violate the 4MW. Such reverse engineering proves that the 8RD deemed to have been a fallacy.
The New School, Ge Fa, Grand Master Lai Bu Yi, also called YangGong Xin Fa, propagated that the asterism has a great influence to the land formation and watercourses. This became the basis of as above the sky, so below the landforms are the manifestation of the stars. An additional ring called the Human Ring was in paced to measure the embrace. Saying thus, the assignment to stellar constellations were grouped into star streams and assigned to the 24 mountains based on these streams of star. Notably the terms 3 auspicious were born, coupled with the related Najia, thus derived the 6 elegances. With this concept, encapsulated unto the Gua transformation, there derived what is known as the (minor) wandering 8 Tri-grams, or Di Mu Fan Gua Jiu Xing Fa, used to measure stars within the embrace or Ge Long Fa. A complementary system employing the same concepts were deployed for water method that start from the assistant star and was called Assistant Star Water Method.
No doubt, some claimed that the new school has its fallacy, for example, we know that the universe is ever expending and the positions of these stars are not static. Therefore, the theoretical framework based on as above, so below does not hold the test of time and probably it is a forced method deploy by Bazi expert to measure the earth.
Coming back to the query and let say, sitting Gen and facing Kun with water outgoing in Ding and Geng. In Najia, Dui received Ding and Zhen received Geng, Dui is Por Jun and Geng is Lien Zheng. Water outgoing at these positions are considered auspicious.
On this basis, we note that there is a contradiction between the findings using 4MW and ASWM, both SanHe methodologies, for reasons that the basic principles are indeed different. Choosing between the 2 methods, I may only recommend the use of 4MW to establish a spot in relative to ASWM to gauge the general auspiciousness of the entire site in question.
Ar. David Yek Tak Wai
